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I loathe AI for many reasons but it seems like a lot of funders are getting at least a little wise to it. I attended a seminar from a funder in my field and they said they were \"taking steps\" to identify who is using AI. They've also started \"grading\" applications on a tier basis, so orgs rich enough to hire grant writers are graded harder than those who are under a certain budget. I think it's a brilliant idea, and one I hope to see more of, and that's coming from someone who is going to be graded harder this year. \n\nAlso, I luckily am allergic to people telling me how to write grants, and I am broke (I charge low so that smaller orgs in my field can afford to hire me) so I couldn't afford a stupid class even if I didn't break out in hives every time someone mentioned something like that. I've written grants on and off for a few years and I love it and I'm successful at it. I make a point to read at least one grant book every 6 months, and I talk with my grant gurus often, but anyone who says grant writing is a side hustle, let alone one you can get rich off of, is off their rocker (I was writing them as a volunteer on and off. Only started charging this year). Google the median grant writer's income and it's really not the 6 figure income some people think it is. If you're amazing and doing big federal projects, sure, but those are few and far between.","body_html":"<div class=\"md\"><p>I know someone who used AI to write grants and then spammed them to every semi-relevant funder in their state. 98 applications sent out, 98 refusals or ghostings. I loathe AI for many reasons but it seems like a lot of funders are getting at least a little wise to it. I attended a seminar from a funder in my field and they said they were "taking steps" to identify who is using AI. They've also started "grading" applications on a tier basis, so orgs rich enough to hire grant writers are graded harder than those who are under a certain budget. I think it's a brilliant idea, and one I hope to see more of, and that's coming from someone who is going to be graded harder this year. </p>\n\n<p>Also, I luckily am allergic to people telling me how to write grants, and I am broke (I charge low so that smaller orgs in my field can afford to hire me) so I couldn't afford a stupid class even if I didn't break out in hives every time someone mentioned something like that. I've written grants on and off for a few years and I love it and I'm successful at it. I make a point to read at least one grant book every 6 months, and I talk with my grant gurus often, but anyone who says grant writing is a side hustle, let alone one you can get rich off of, is off their rocker (I was writing them as a volunteer on and off. Only started charging this year). Google the median grant writer's income and it's really not the 6 figure income some people think it is. If you're amazing and doing big federal projects, sure, but those are few and far between.</p>\n</div>","can_gild":false,"can_mod_post":false,"collapsed":false,"collapsed_because_crowd_control":null,"collapsed_reason":null,"collapsed_reason_code":null,"comment_type":null,"controversiality":0,"created":1740550753.0,"created_utc":1740550753.0,"distinguished":null,"downs":0,"edited":false,"gilded":0,"gildings":{},"id":"meuel7a","is_submitter":false,"likes":null,"link_id":"t3_1iygn7g","locked":false,"mod_note":null,"mod_reason_by":null,"mod_reason_title":null,"mod_reports":[],"name":"t1_meuel7a","no_follow":true,"num_reports":null,"parent_id":"t3_1iygn7g","permalink":"/r/nonprofit/comments/1iygn7g/when_did_it_become_such_a_scam/meuel7a/","removal_reason":null,"replies":"","report_reasons":null,"saved":false,"score":1,"score_hidden":true,"send_replies":true,"stickied":false,"subreddit":"nonprofit","subreddit_id":"t5_2qlfy","subreddit_name_prefixed":"r/nonprofit","subreddit_type":"public","top_awarded_type":null,"total_awards_received":0,"treatment_tags":[],"unrepliable_reason":null,"ups":1,"user_reports":[]}],"metadata":{},"error":null}